“The minimum requirement for a good poem is
Welcome to the sixth episode of SPOTLIGHT ON NCTE POETS! The videos in this series with Lee Bennett Hopkins are brief and personal looks at all the recipients of the NCTE Award for Excellence in Poetry for Children.
This series isn’t about analyzing the poets and their work, but rather about preserving Lee’s personal recollections, insights, and memories of each of these amazing people. Through these short interviews, we hope to foster an appreciation of the poets and their work by “reading it and loving it from the heart,” as Lee says.
This installment brings us to a man who worked tirelessly to make poetry a popular art appreciated by the masses — and succeeded.
In 1982, John Ciardi became the sixth recipient of the NCTE award. Like Eve Merriam, Ciardi — or “Mr. Poet” — was known for years as an adult poet as well as a critic, teacher, and academic who wrote lively verse that spoke and was accessible to millions of people.
Particularly noted for writing what he called “Unimportant Poems” about daily life, Ciardi worked hard to popularize poetry, writing over 40 books of poetry for children and adults, as well as numerous books including everything from translations of Dante’s Inferno to various dictionaries.
Although his first book of adult poetry, Homeward to America, was released in 1940, Ciardi didn’t burst onto the children’s literature scene until 1959 with the publication of The Reason for the Pelican, in which his playful, nonsensical verse and style was already very evident.
Eventually eschewing the halls of academia in favor of full-time writing, Ciardi explored the world of vocabulary-controlled poetry while writing poems for his young daughter to read on her own. As Lee mentions in the video, Ciardi was writing I Can Read books before they were invented, and wrote his personal favorite book, I Met a Man, with beginning readers in mind. (Click graphics to enlarge and read.)
This was all well and good, but then something really fabulous happened: Ciardi teamed up with Edward Gorey. I have been a Gorey fan for decades, so of course I found this duo swoon-worthy. Just look at some of these covers!
Of all the poems by Ciardi that I read for this post, “What Night Would It Be?” from I Read to You, You Read to Me is one of my favorites for its pacing, rhythm, and sound play. It scores a ten on the read-aloud-ability scale, so I went ahead and recorded it, which you can hear below the graphic.
And here are more Ciardi-Gorey creations. Amazingly, many of Ciardi’s books are still available in various editions, so we don’t have to just imagine what delights are buried therein.
Lee also mentions that Ciardi was a pioneer in nonsense verse for children in the mode of Edward Lear, a style found also in the work of Shel Silverstein and Jack Prelutsky.
Lee’s reflections on John Ciardi reveal a profoundly intelligent and charismatic man who could dole out searing criticism or translate Dante in one moment and write a nonsense verse about a boy-eating shark the next. My own reading and research has revealed one of the most quotable poets I’ve yet encountered, a poet who was passionate about appreciating poetry for its own sake and of showing both adults and children “how does a poem mean” in accessible, engaging ways.
LEE BENNETT HOPKINS on JOHN CIARDI
Here is the poem that Lee shares in the video.
In His Own Words: John Ciardi on
Writing and Reading Poetry
“An impassioned ignorance I don’t think is the best approach to the instrument. There is a tradition. I don’t think you can play music until you’ve heard music. I think writing a poem involves at least as much skill as being a concert pianist, and that means spending some time with the instrument.” From his speech at UCLA, March 31, 1965
“The argument is often ‘don’t you lose the impromptu if you revise?’ You don’t get the impromptu unless you revise. You write it into position. Good writing is rewriting.” From his speech at UCLA, March 31, 1965
“A poem is some sort of act of passion. You have to remember it. You have to touch electricity.” From his speech at UCLA, March 31, 1965
“All students tend to be a little sneaky about poetry, partly because of academic pressure. The average students don’t really care about the poem; they want to know what to put on the final examination. They’re just going over hurdles. They won’t engage in confusion. They want a certifiable act. Which is what my schoolteachers used to do when they got out of the wrong end of the teaching process. They’d say, ‘In two good sentences that make sense, state the meaning of this poem.’ And I’d say, ‘Wow, there goes Keats, there goes Blake, there goes all the wildness.’ It’s instruction to translate, isn’t it? ‘Rewrite this poem the way the poet would have written it in the first place if he had been as smart as the school system, without fooling around with rhymes, with metaphors, with images, with shapes, without any of the things you love in poetry.’ I don’t want to talk to categorical readers. They’re spiritually poor. They’ve got the courage of their convictions, but they haven’t got the courage of their confusions. I don’t think you’re being educated unless you take the venture into confusion.” From his speech at UCLA, March 31, 1965
“The classroom owes an apology to poetry.”
In March 1965, John Ciardi gave a speech at UCLA entitled “The Poet and American.” It is marvelous, full of insight and wisdom on what poetry is and should be, and how we should teach — or not teach — poetry to children and young adults. It is one of the most quotable speeches I have ever heard, delivered with humor and passion. I highly recommend setting aside forty minutes to be mesmerized and enlightened by this most charismatic poet.
More about John Ciardi
Dates: b. 1916 in Boston, MA; d. 1986 in New Jersey
Education: Tufts University, University of Michigan
Occupation: Poet, teacher, translator, etymologist, critic; professor at Harvard and Rutgers; editor at The Saturday Review
Recognition: NCTE Award for Excellence in Poetry for Children, 1982; Prix de Rome from the American Academy of Arts and Letters, 1956; American Platform Association Carl Sandburg Award, 1980
Known for: Nonsense poetry for children; popular, accessible adult poetry that appealed to the masses; an approach to poetry more concerned with how the poem says what it does than with what the poem means
First book published: Homeward to America (Holt, 1940)
John Ciardi Manuscript Collection at Stony Brook University
Literary biography and bibliography at The Poetry Foundation
Profile of Ciardi for NCTE, by Norine Odland
On Words with John Ciardi: NPR Podcasts
“Poetry lies its way to the truth.”
WINNERS of the NCTE AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE IN POETRY FOR CHILDREN
(links go to NCTE articles and interviews about each winner)
(Criteria for award)
2013 – Joyce Sidman
2011 – J. Patrick Lewis
2009 – Lee Bennett Hopkins
2006 – Nikki Grimes
2003 – Mary Ann Hoberman
2000 – X.J. Kennedy
1997 – Eloise Greenfield
1994 – Barbara Juster Esbensen
1991 – Valerie Worth
1988 – Arnold Adoff
1985 – Lilian Moore
1982 – John Ciardi
1981 – Eve Merriam
1980 – Myra Cohn Livingston | See Myra’s NCTE SPOTLIGHT post on NWR
1979 – Karla Kuskin | See Karla’s NCTE SPOTLIGHT post on NWR
1978 – Aileen Fisher | See Aileen’s NCTE SPOTLIGHT post on NWR
1977 – David McCord | See David’s NCTE SPOTLIGHT post on NWR
NEXT IN THE SERIES: LILIAN MOORE
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How is it possible that I don’t know much about John Ciardi given what a fan I am of Edward Lear (and Prelutsky and Silverstein…minus The Giving Tree). Thanks for yet another enlightening post of a poet most deserving of our admiration. I am definitely going to get some of his books illustrated by Gorey (also being a huge Gorey fan). And amen to “Good writing is rewriting.”!
Definitely a blog post worth waiting for! Thanks for the hard work, Renee. I love Ciardi’s work, as it is interesting to note that even folks as “original” as Shel and Jack were influenced by those who came before them. And of course, Lee’s commentary is always insightful.
Have a great weekend!
Wonderful, Renee! Thanks to you and Lee for another brilliant NCTE post! (Glad to have you back 🙂 ) I didn’t know much about John Ciardi before this post, but now I’d like to know much, much more. Sounds like someone with much to offer… as a poet and as a teacher. Wish I could get my hands on that book of limericks too! Plus, he reminds me of a Humphrey Bogart-esque film star which doesn’t hurt either.
Wow! Thank you! I was familiar with Ciardi but not with the breadth of his work. I will have to investigate further.
My lit professor (so long ago) had us use How Does A Poem Mean in our class-love Ciardi’s work, & I just found Doodle Soup at a used bookstore! Thanks for such a wonderful post Renee. The poems you shared are wonderful, too.
Now this is a revelation for me, Renee. Like you, I am a huge fan of Edward Gorey’s works – but I have concentrated more on books that he illustrated and wrote himself – I haven’t really explored his other collaborations. I never realized that he teamed up with John Ciardi! I will definitely look for these books in our library. I am soooo glad I visited you this week.
Wonderful! Renee and Lee!
I’ve read some of Ciardi’s stuff
but clearly not enough
Great post, Ms. LaTulippe! 😀 I like Mr. Ciardi’s playfulness in his poems! 🙂
Oh Renee and Lee. I could kiss you both. This series is SO vital. Thank you.
This is such a rich post, Renee. I feel as though I’m just beginning to know John Ciardi’s work. I’m a big Gorey fan, too. Theirs looks like a marvelous pairing of inventive poetry and imaginative illustration.
Great interview–gave me new insight into this poet whose work I don’t know much of. Thanks, Renee and Lee!
Renee and Lee,
I have to say once again how in love I am with this series! I saved this in my Inbox until I had time to savor as I read and listened. Oh my!! You delivered! Just wonderful. A big thank 🙂